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Battery Super Soco TC MAX use for Super Soco TC

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kamsi
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I'm curious if any of you tried to use the original super soco tc max battery for super soco tc ?

example: Lithium Battery 72v45ah for Super Soco Tc Max.

https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4000729647277.html

 

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wagner
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It does not fit.
I tried it already, the battery case of the tc max is slightly different.

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kamsi
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Okey, what do you think about this battery:

60v40ah

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It's the right specs, and it has a really high capacity rating. I would note though, that unless you see people that actually tested the capacity, they often overinflate the numbers. They even do so with the individual cells on these sites, if you were looking to build your own battery pack. The components used sometimes aren't the best inside, using nickel plated vs pure nickel, quality of the solder and BMS. In reality, you're using it as a second battery, especially if it's in parallel, it will have less strain on each prolonging the life. You can help by also wrapping some foam or something around your batteries so they don't shake so much in the compartment. 

How much are these running for? 

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@kamsi

what do you want to do?
More power?More range? Paralleling the battery with your original one?

The stats you showed aren´t saying much but that this 3rd party battery has 10Ah more capacity than the original one(which is nice).
What´s the price of that pack, including shipping to your location?

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You won't really get a boost in power with high ah battery. You can use a pack with different capacity being that they both have BMS that should keep them even when they are in parallel with each other. While you don't get higher power, you will go much further before feeling the power dip from your battery levels dropping. A way to think is your battery has a max charge of 71.4 volts (17s battery) and at 40 amps (the max the controller will pull) you achieve 2856 watts. The further you get away from the 71.4 volts, the further you are from the 'peak' 3000watts. 

If your electricity is a bucket of water, the distance from the drain to the top is the volts, determining how much pressure there can be. The amps is the tube going out or how much water can flow through at one time. The amp hours (ah) is digging your reservoir sideways. You're not impacting the pressure or how much can flow through at onceby adding the pack in parallel, you're digging sideways to have more water before you run out and adding a second pipe so you only need half to pass through each connection in order to achieve the same volume. 

The benefits of this will also include less strain on your battery. If you discharge and charge fewer times, the better. Having batteries in parallel will pull fewer amps from each to achieve max power which is better on strain, but also keeping things further below their max rating reduces losses in the system and heat given off. both good things. 

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Thanks for info.

I have to thing about this, because i want to buy a second battery. 

Just to switch from first battery to second.

Do you have one battery or more ?

What is your configuration if I can ask ?

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I am finishing building my second battery pack. It will be 17s11p (most likely) they are made with LG MJ1 18650 cells each with 3500mah and 4.2v max/3.6v nominal. 17 in series is (17*4.2) 71.4v max/61.2v nominal (the 60V you see rated) the 11 in parallel is 3.5ah cells equaling 38.5 ah. Hooking this up in parallel will put me around 68ah in total. In my next step, I will be looking to get a controller, most likely Sabvoton to run both controllers in parallel. I'll also be looking to use XT90 connectors instead of the original soco ones, but have not replaced anything on my original battery as of yet. 

Apologies if I'm breaking this down too much, but I hope it helps those not experienced with electricity. 

Even if you do not run in parallel, and just one battery than the next, you'll put fewer cycles on your batteries and you won't need to run them below 20-30% as often prolonging the life of your batteries as well. I'd also recommend putting some foam or something around your existing battery or in the compartment to eliminate a bit of the shaking and rattling you'll experience with the stock setup. 

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