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Thinking of buying a TC (& 2 rider opinions)

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Hello,
EU user here.
I want to point out I have not driven motorcycles before, but been driving for 5 years and since I have B driving license I can legally drive the TC.
Last year I did a small test drive of the TC in the parking lot, it looks very nice, but the throttle response was so immediate and I didn't get used to it in my limited time. Now I see the test bike has a 3000 EUR price with 640 km, which I think is a great deal.

Will I get used to the throttle over time and will the bike be good for a beginner?I am planning on driving this to work ~6.5 km away.

Also, right after I live home there is like a 400m slope, I think it is around 5-7 degrees maybe? (not really sure), but would like to be able to climb this with my girlfriend on the bike at some point after I feel confident and learn how to drive the bike.  The total weight will be ~130kg, do you think I will be able to do it a a reasonable pace (if I start on flat ground at 45km/h, could I say finish climbing at 20km/h)?

And if not, will de-restricting it help (I know it won't be legal anymore, but I don't think I will get pulled over by the police, and if I do then unless I am speeding they can't really prove I am not a moped anymore imo).

Also, in the future if I need more range I might create my own second battery for it, do you know anything about the legallity of this?

Any suggestions/opinions are welcome. Thank you.

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CubeyTerra
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De-restricting will not give your bike more power; it simply moves the speed limits higher for each gear. The power is limited by 1.) the battery's ability to deliver current and 2.) the max power of the motor. 

Regarding point 2, the max power is 3000 Watts. The peak operating voltage is 69.7 Volts. So [I = P/V = 3000/69.7] the motor wants to draw around 43 Amps, which brings us back to point 1. 

The battery appears to be rated to 30A (can anyone confirm this?), which explains why I've had THREE battery connectors actually burn and melt down.

tl;dr: Bike can't handle the current; de-restricting it won't add power; expect breakdowns.

I would strongly advise against getting a Super Soco, based on my personal experience over the last half year riding one.

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NenaGirl
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@cubeyterra i can imagine that you arent happy with the bike with 3 issues but Mayby you should change the cables and connectors dont the dealer change that for you to an orange cable and round pins? Another thing is weight to start the motor takes a Spike current from your batt and motor this can cause an burn-out from your cables etc so if your weight is About 100kg you'll got a bigger chance to burn it... i checked every time if the cables were hot but they always stays at About 40deg. As already spoken About on this forum the bike is made for a Chinese person from around 50-60kg hahaha 

and Yes there is a need to do some changes... cables and tires are one off the main features that need to be changed! 

So if you can do some things yourself and can do some mods then it is a great bike! But if you aint then it is possible that you are dependent to the dealer. 

Its fun to ride this bike and to modefy the bike but if it is a must, then...

I know i would be disapointed but the fun what i have with the bike... So do some changes even you could use a better connector straigth from the bms! Im also going to change the cables from the motor and from the battery. Still the best electric bike i have seen! Except the Zero... i love that bike 🤣😊

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(@raresserban)
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@nenagirl @cubeyterra Well I am quite a tinkerer and I have read about the various issues so I was thinking of replacing the connector with an XT60/90 (of which the BMS I believe already has under the housing?).
And maybe in the future build a DIY second battery.

Will I need to change more cables than the one for the battery?


So what you are saying here is that with 130 kg on it the bike will not really like it and maybe the motor will try to draw too much current and melt the cables?Are there any other problems that I need to be aware of?

 

Cause it's beginning to feel like I am asking too much of this bike and I should just get a motorcycle license and get the TC Max, but I wanted to first try this out for a couple of years to see if I am into this whole motorcycle thing or not...

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(@alexaraducristian)
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@raresserban few points from my side:

1. Forget about two riders. 130kg is a lot, the bike is really struggling to maintain the speed with just 90 kg.

2. When going up-hill the speed decreases depending on your weight and degrees. In general on flat I get 45km/h and no more than 40km/h on 3-4° normal hills.

3. The bike is not perfect, I read a lot of problems and you must be a big DIY fun to solve by yourself.

4. The price is really good, think there're electric bikes with same price, but with smaller battery, less engine power etc.

5. I have similar 6km distance from home to work and riding in traffic makes it perfect. Btw, for such short distanced, in order to prolong the battery's life, I charge it daily or every two days with just few percents, so I try to keep it in the range 40% - 75%. This ensures 3-4000 charge cycles ( or even more) until it will maintain 80% of energy, meaning it should last at least 10 years (of course in theory).

6. Hope you live at house, otherwise (if you're in a flat) the risk of having it stolen is high. The bike is not very heavy (~85kg) and can be easily carried by two men. Also the app which was supposed to help you track the bike is case it's stolen does not work in Europe.

 

I can give more infos if you need. I have only 500km so maybe i'm also not the best to share the experience, but browsing this forum you'll learn a lot.

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(@raresserban)
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@alexaraducristian Thank you for the info. I have decided that for the time being the TC is not really what I am looking for. I really want to be able to ride with my girlfriend like 1.5km to get her to the bus station and it sucks that there is a hill right before it...

I am looking at the TC Max, but it requires A1 license. There is currently a proposed bill in my country that car drivers who have B can also drive A1 motorcycles, I will wait and see if it will be approved or not and then make a decision.

Thanks for the info!

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(@sveinunge)
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@alexaraducristian Hello! Looking for a el bike. Are you happy about this Super Soco Tc bike, any serious trouble/ issues ?

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(@alexaraducristian)
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@sveinunge yes, definitely I'm happy with it.

The best of all is that in busy cities, with lot of traffic, TC is perfect to jump first in the queue when traffic light is red and all cars are not moving.

By example by car I get an average of 17 km/h in the city, while with the TC I get 24 km/h 🙂 It's also a big difference between the two: on two wheels you double the level of attention.

The price is also very good... think that only the battery is 1/3 of the total bike price. I was looking for e-bikes, but a good one has the same price as a TC, but with just 12Ah battery and 250 W engine.

Serious troubles... yes, the speedometer on my instrument cluster started to show a wrong speed. But I changed the entire IC (display) under warranty, exchanged by myself, and now it's working perfect. And of course I would say unusable in cold conditions and slippery roads - actually during winters we don't see to many motorcycles on the road, so TC is not an exception.

And one more drawback... the bike is small, for a 70kg rider is perfect. I'm 90kg (actually 95 "thanks" to lockdown and working from home), but I still find it comfortable and not looking too ridiculous.. but by example a 120kg rider is probable a bit too much.

But overall I recommend.

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(@sveinunge)
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@alexaraducristianThank you very much, for taking your time for This informative reply. 🙂👍

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