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Danbolton
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Has anyone done anything to make the Tc max more powerful, already altered the looks of my bike now just wondering if theres a way to make it faster 

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socomods
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you might want to be careful on this area, your question seems to suggest limited electrical knowledge? Because of the current levels we are talking about here, the risk of explosions or fire because of lithium misuse becomes very real

 

essentially there are 2 or 3 components you need to change to increase power, the Controller (sets the power limit and current demand, sends from battery to motor, market options eg Kelly), the Motor (need to know its limits, peak/sustained, and other options on market) and possibly the battery (depending on your target power increase, max sustained and peak currents etc) - potentially the HUD aswell

 

Not a cheap job, and more complex for the Max because of the belt drive system (according to post RE flat tyre, the Max requires specialist software just to replace the belt properly)

 

 

I am doing TS upgrade of all these parts over summer, will include some custom parts and software, but mostly it can be done simply on the TS - different story on TC Max, but might give you some useful info

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Danbolton
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@socomods thanks mate, might end up doing some of them later along the line. Starting to get to the point of where the power of the bike is the limiting factor 

 

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DocWeyr
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@danbolton - formaly it should be balanced and connected set of elements. So as @socomods said - balance between motor, controler and battery.
The questions are:

- is there software upgrade possible to allow higher power paid by faster battery use = lower limit of miles you may ride?

- if any of above has still unused limits - so we can plan upgrade only of some of elements to get more powerful bike?

There are some disputes about possible software upgrade based on feeling that TCmax has moderate settings to be more safe and have extended range. It can be true but so far I could not see any info about such upgrade avaiable.

When you think about hardware upgrade some say that battery can offer more juice so mostly ppl focus on controller first.

I would really like to find options for possible even little upgrade of TC max power as I am 2 m tall and my bike is under me a bit too weak.

 

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FCFanBoy
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@socomods

These are the items I was contemplating even before I bought my TC Max.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33022794347.html?spm=2114.12010612.8148356.6.6d6b2df3US98AP

 

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alexaraducristian
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Do you really feel you need to increase power?

 

Mine is TC and only thing which annoys me is the big decrease of speed on very steep hills. By example I have ~100m before entering the main street where the speed does not increases more than 15km/h in 1st gear (that's the only bad part).

 

Well I believed a TC Max is much more powerful than the TC. How does it feel on hills? Or as already asked, what's the main annoying thing which makes you wish to increase the power?

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DocWeyr
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@alexaraducristian my personal answer is simple - how tall and heavy are you? @;-)= Yes, I do. Max speed I may reach is around 80 km/h - if road goes a bit down - 85 km/h. I hope it focuses answer you asked for in my personal situation. So I do need power, not speed.

 

But I know - many riders are 50% of me and for them I suppose target is higher speed. This can be however risky up to construction and durability of parts of SuperSoco bikes designed for below 100 km/h speed.

 

 

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FCFanBoy
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@docweyr

Screenshot 2020 03 22 19 03 54

Taken on Sunday 22nd March. Admittedly that was downhill with the speedo indicating just over 90km/h (normal riding position, I'm sure I could have gained a few precious extra mph if I'd tucked in but would have looked a complete knob).

 

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DocWeyr
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@fcfanboy - TCmax can ride 95 km/h and it is confirmed by avg. riders. I just answered why I also think about increasing power of my max. Or I will faster or later switch for another bigger e-bike. Just because I am far more then 175 cm. ;-]

 

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alexaraducristian
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@docweyr it's obvious the bike was built for Cinese people: 65kg and 1.7m tall ==)))

I'm 95kg / 1.8m... the bike is a bit small for me, my wife sometime laugh. The power indeed may be slightly increased. But I don't complain because:

- I drive it only in the city

- by car I get an average speed of 17 km/h. When stucked in traffic jam, I smoke in my car (don't judge, it's simply boring staring to other cars stucked like me).

- by bike I get 23km/h for exactly the same route. I'm always the first at the semaphore, never smoke (more healthy). 

- the last but not least... it's cheaper electric than combustion engine's car. I mean much cheaper, probable 20-30 less expensive.

 

So it could be better... but for this price it does its job well. Or alternatives already exist, see Zero motorcycles.

 

 

 

 

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FCFanBoy
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@docweyr

It really depends on what you intended to use the bike for.

I bought mine for commuting during the summer and some random YouTube escapades. Whilst I might agree it does lack mid-range grunt on longer runs, relying on speed rather than power to perform overtakes, it is perfectly suited to blasting around town at legal speeds.

 

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DocWeyr
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@fcfanboy @alexaraducristian - of course way we use bike is most important. ;-] I drive mostly from suburbs where trafiic flows 80-90 km/h and on 2-3 line wide streets in the city. So yes I could do with stronger bike just to match traffic flow. More or less I can... but up to 80 km/h as I am just taller and more heavy.

But I really like my TCmax. And when I bought it last year - there was in fact also the only choice for light e-motorcycle with a dealer and service in Poland I could find. I am far away from complain. However I am curious if we may add some juice to its power as I could really make use of it.

 
 

 

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Stikmetaal
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Has anyone tought about installing a slightly bigger belt pulley on the motor. You will op pay a bit in acceleration but at the end a better top speed. 

What do you think? Try?

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