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Removing the black charge lead.

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(@djps13)
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I have switched the XT plug to the spare, but I'm yet to remove the black plug. With the orange cable attached and with the charger pugged in to the external charge point, with this allow me to charge and ride without having to open it up and change the black plugs over? I can then remove it at a later date?

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(@ewayfarer)
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Hi all,

Because I've been seeing in the forums and youtube about this black/orange lead issue I contacted my dealership in advance and asked them to ensure the external charging plug is working properly before I pick up my new TC Max.  When I went to pick my bike up my dealership told me that the person they deal with (someone in Melbourne, Aust) advised them not to swap the black cable with the orange one.  When I asked why, they said the person in Melbourne didn't give a reason.  I don't know who this person is but this is very confusing, surely Super Soco installed that external charging plug for us to use?!  And if that's the case why aren't they then telling all the dealerships to swap the 2 internal leads to get this external plug working?  Now I'm left with the dilemma of whether to swap the black for the orange lead or not...

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(@ewayfarer)
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Hi all,

I decided to remove the black cable and then I connected the 2 yellow plugs together and then plugged my charger into the external charging port.  I looked at the charger and it just sat there blinking red/green. My manual says red/green means error.  I decided it best to then unplug my charger from the external charging port and am now just charging directly to the battery.

Has anyone else had red/green flashing when trying to charge thru the external port?  I really don't understand what the issue is.

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I worked out what was wrong, when charging to the external charging port you can't have the master power switch turned off.  Anyway, now it's charging fine.

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DocWeyr
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@ewayfarer - that for sure @;-)= Everything whorks better when the fuse is on ;-]]]]]]]]] You made my day!

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(@alexaraducristian)
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As during the winter I always took the battery inside the house for storing and charging, I did not realize it 🙂 

But with the spring and good weather, I has been exchanging the black (for charging) with orange (for riding) for each charge.

Annoying and I realized something I do wrong 🙂 So searched and found this old post which explains that changing the XT plugs located behind the chair solves the continuous exhange of cables. So I did and now I charge the bike then just remove the charger and start riding.

 

All good... But the other question which came in my mind: how safe is to charge the battery with the bike ON?

 

I did it already twice, I charged with bike ON to monitor the battery level on the instrument and stop at ~80% (my charger is rated 71.4V, so will always charge at maximum 4.2V/cell and stress them... so I always prefer to stop the charging earlier).

On instrument it shows the regeneration icon blinking and charges fine, about 1% every 5-6 minutes).

Theoretically it should be like on every smartphone which everyone of us is charging with the phone ON. But just wonder due to BMS if anyone is doing the same like me (charging with bike ON) and has had no problem.

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@alexaraducristian - you can charge your TC max by external connector with power switched off. I always do this that way in my garage.

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@docweyr all right... But is it wrong to charge with power switched ON? 

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@alexaraducristian - hmm.. it works but:

- consumes some power - not much but still some;

- in public place - can be stollen;

- technically - off prevents unexpected move of the bike - should not happen but like with a gun... sometimes gum just fires by surprise; so better have bike off once left without control.

Why to charge bike which is on? To see % all the time for couple of hours? 😎 

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(@alexaraducristian)
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@docweyr yes exactly, to check from time to time the % 😀 

 

I know in some countries the bike come with 69.7V charger, which will charge each cell to 4.1V.

I received the 71.4V charger which will charge each cell to its maximum of 4.2V.

 

My trips are in general very short (10-15km/day), I rarely need the battery fully charged. That's why I calculate and I charge the batter to a bit more than my needs for that trip, that's the reason I check the %.

 

Btw: I charge my bike in my yard, because I live at house, so no chance to get it stolen in pubic place.

The consumption of the light (front/rear) and instrument cluster I think it's very low... I let the bike almost 1 hour switched ON and the level of battery remained the same (not even 1% consumed).

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(@lostit)
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I don't know why you'd leave it turned on. That LED headlight assembly will cost a fortune to replace when it does burn out. If you could get the headlight switch to work that would be great. My dealer sent the bike to me like this, less than 5 minutes to sort out. Works great now.

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