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Yidaki
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Hello, 

What speed does your Super Soco TC Max reach? 
Mine barely runs 70 km / h. (43mph)
Downhill sometimes 80/85 ... (50mph)

Somwone knows tricks to make him drive faster?

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DocWeyr
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I have ~the same but I am 2 m tall - much greater air resistance and weight then standard rider. ;-] From much smaller guys I know that they can get official 95 km/h.

But up to possibility to ride not only my TC max I have a feeling that there is an important space to improve power by software update and different bikes can reach a bit more then others.

 

And btw - if you are not tall/heavy - maybe you have blocked  your TCmax by plaing up to youtube instruction how to rise top speed on TC which normaly is very restricted but ublocked can reach around 70 km/h max. But for TC max it works opossite - slowes bike. So you need to repeat it to improve max again. But if you may reach 80/85 down the hill - I think it is not restricted. Then "go to" begining of my post.

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FCFanBoy
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The highest indicated speed I have seen is 50mph (90kmh) keeping up with traffic on a near fully charged battery but the top speed does drop in all three modes as the battery voltage drops.
Example (indicated speeds):
Mode 1 - Fully charged 30mph, 27% charge approx 25mph
Mode 2 - Fully charged 40mph, 26% charged approx 35mph
Mode 3 - Fully charged >50mph, 30% charged <45mph

The weight on the bike and outside temperature also seem to have a bearing on top speed and range.

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CubeyTerra
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If your TC Max isn't exceeding 70 km/h, then you might have to run through the limiter/delimiter sequence again (it's somewhere on this site). That's TC performance.

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Yidaki
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@cubeyterra

I reach 80/85 down hill so I think it's not restricted. I am 1m85 and weigh 80 kg, and of course it is very cold and windy at the moment. Hope this will improve during the summer. 🙂

 
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DocWeyr
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@yidaki

And it is perfectly true. 😉 Please keep in mind that TCmax is stronger then any other SuperSoco but still it has medium power far away from 11 kW allowed for light motorcycles cathegory. I really wish it would be twice stronger. Not for boosting msax speed. But to secure enough power to reach formal 90-95 km/h for bigger riders and be a bit more brave in low temp.

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mrj
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@cubeyterra

I discovered mine was restricted, and it wouldn't go above 30mph, let alone 70kmh! (43mph). You could feel that the motor wasn't even pulling when you opened the throttle at 25 or so.

But thanks to the instructions here, I quickly sorted it out. So far, 50mph (80kmh) on a gentle down hill, but there was traffic so I wasn't trying hard. And it was cool (about 9'C) so non-ideal circumstances. Bike is brand new so I haven't even charged the battery yet, so it isn't "broken in" (if that is even a thing?).

 

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Moose
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Seems a bit slower than I'd expect, mine will do about 50mph indicated on the flat with my 185cm/100kg self on it. Take a while to get to 50 mind, it's pretty slow accelerating after 45ish.

Are your brakes rubbing or anything? Mine were initially which made mine slower, if I lifted up the front wheel it wouldn't freely rotate but that's sorted now.

 

Edit: I too think approximately double the power would be good, still well within the limits for it's classification here in the UK but it'd be nice to be able to reach ~50mph or so faster, maybe push top speed to 60 or so would be nice. Maybe the next edition or whatever!

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DocWeyr
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@moose - When we look at todays market offers - TC max is probably the best choice for light e-motorcyles in EU. But for sure - there is a lot of space within this cathegory to claim. TCmax is 1/3 of this limit. Better then others but still lower than needed in Europe. Mostly - we are just bigger so in many situations - more power is really needed.

And I hope 2020 will bring us a choice of full 11 kW light bikes. Indeed - it is really needed by bigger bikers who not seek for expensive, speed motorcycles but prefer resonable but more effective vehicle for big size rider.

 

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socobelfast
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@moose

You're looking at an 11kw Zero SR or DSR, which if new will set you back 5 figures. I don't really know what the solution is, there's nothing inbetween the TC Max and that, such a huge gap in the market.

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@socobelfast

Zero is 3x more expensive and it is speed shape I do not like. What we get for Zero's price is however much below costs (I mean range / power).

 

Yes. I agree once again - there is a huge gap to fill between TCmax and bikes like Zero.

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mrj
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@docweyr @socobelfast

+1

I went to the Fully Charged Live this summer and the TC MAX was the only thing I could afford that was like a petrol motorbike (which I normally ride every day).

It was a shame the distributor was not at the show, and it was left to one brave dealer to bring their own bike to the show.

By the time my TC max is out of warranty I expect it will be easy to upgrade off the shelf -> 10KW motor and new battery pack. It will basically become the rolling chassis for a home made e-moto. 🙂

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@mrj

You'll find that you're obliged to change the controller if you want to do that. At that stage, you're looking at changing the display module as well. I've been tempted down that road myself but I figure I'd rather wait for an 11kw Zero to come down in price or for a decent second hand one to come on the market. I'm adding my own battery though. 2 sets of 30Ah in addition to the original TC battery to give a range of approximately 90 miles, given my body weight and the additional weight of the new batteries.

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mrj
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@socobelfast

Yes, just looking at the error codes in the manual, you can tell various bits of the bike will expect to talk to various other bits so you can't just swap out one part of the electronics and expect it to work. But give it a year or two and someone will have reverse engineered it all and come up with a BMS or ESC that can talk to the speedo or whatever. I hope.

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