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targaryen
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Posted by: Oscar

well the batteries work better on high tempartures. So i need to live usually around 20 degrees celsius. That's good for a battery but in the winter i have seriously less range. (winter is around 0 degrees celsius)

What range u get at 0 degrees and 20 degrees? ( with speed of 45 km/h)

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Posted : 18/09/2018 14:41
Super Honda
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I have done some notes during my trips, in drive mode 3 limited, I had a discharge of 1.59-1.66% battery charge per kilometer according to the charging figures on the display (about 60km on a full battery).
In delimited mode 3 the statistics is between 1.91-2.67% per kilometer. (38-55km on a full battery)

I think the speed is most influential, not temperature and humidity, driving in 55-60km gives much more air resistance than 40-45km/h

One day with a lot of headwind on my way to work, I drained the battery down to 9% in only 33 kilometers in position 3, in limited mode, and a day without wind, I could arrive with 50% battery charge left.

So even if you got a higher top speed, I drive the most in position two, the biggest win with the delimited position is that running feels more relaxed, it rolls easily down slopes/hills, in limited mode it felts like it brakes to hold max 45km/h in downward slopes as well.

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Posted : 18/09/2018 14:55
JoeCitizen
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This is great info, I'm glad to hear the batteries work better in higher temperatures as there's no shortage of hot weather here (all year round). It sounds like no matter what you do the SOCO's weren't really made to perform at higher speeds, I can relate to what your saying @super-honda about downward slopes, my commute home from work is down a steep mountain road and switching to mode/gear 2 really slows the bike down. However, I do feel like I just need that bit more speed and acceleration on the straights, I might wait until I get a second battery until I switch to the unrestricted setting, I'm hoping I can get a hold of a Y-cable before I do, I'm sure there manufactured here (in China) but I haven't been able to find a retailer yet.

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Posted : 18/09/2018 15:52
targaryen
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In my situation I get a range of 50 km a battery with speed of 48-50 km:h. With a windy situation I get around 40km a range! I haven’t drive in winters yet but I hope for the best!

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Posted : 18/09/2018 17:21
JoeCitizen
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So I unlocked/restricted my TC, in my first attempt I put it in mode/gear1 and followed the steps. The results were that no matter what mode/gear (1,2, or 3) I was in, the bike was restricted to the very slow speed of mode/gear 1. In result of this I then repeated the process again and it went back to the way it was when I rode it out of the shop i.e. mode/gear 1 was slow, mode/gear 2 was a bit more powerful and faster and mode/gear 3 was the max.

In result of this I came to assume that the bike was already unlocked/de-restricted upon purchase. But just to make sure I repeated the process twice in mode/gear 3 and it produced exactly the same result. This puzzled me as in instructional videos it is explained that there is two modes/power levels L1e (50cc) and L3e (125cc). In both modes/power levels there is a significant difference in speed and power output in modes/gears 1, 2, and 3; with L3e being a lot more faster and powerful of course.

https://youtu.be/mxN_FmfvT7E

However, with my TC it seems to be restricted to two modes/power levels where it is either locked to the slow speed of mode/gear 1 not matter if I am in mode/gear 1, 2, or 3. Or unlocked where there is a increase in speed and power in modes/gears 2 and 3.

Is this something to do with the software?...like since it's a later model have they changed the modes/power output functions and capabilities? Or am I doing something wrong?

 

Btw, the max speed I was able to get out of it (since I purchased it from the dealer the way it is) is about 80-85kmph on a flat (slightly downhill) stretch of road after going full throttle in mode/gear 3 for a good amount of time.

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Posted : 22/09/2018 12:27
ajpegg
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The dealer de-restricted my TC for me when I picked it up, but the other day I decided to see what it was like when restricted, so I followed the sequence and had a go. 

When the bike is de-restricted, I asked the dealer what the difference was in the 3 modes. There is no difference in fact, even though the display still shows different ranges. It should not. You are in mode 3 all the time, whatever the switch position.

It’s easy to test whether your bike is derestricted or not, and that is to simply attempt to go above 28mph / 45kph in mode 3. If the bike is restricted you will not be able to.

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Posted : 01/10/2018 20:53
UTesla
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Hi, I've recently bought a TS1200R, I tested speed limit in each mode and in mode 1 I reach 35 km/h, mode 2, 45-47 km/h and in mode 3, 60-65 km/h. After read that I can unlock my TS I tried it and I realized that it was limited to 50 km/h in mode 3. The test was made in mode 3. So I put my TS back as it was as new.

 

About the range, the one that is shown in the bike is estimated and I have never ride it efficiently so each time I start from a red light, I go at Max speed posible, and that peak of energy consumption is high.

 

(Sorry about my English, it is a bit old)

 

If someone want to talk in Spanish about the Super Soco, message me. 

(Si alquien quiere hablar en español sobre la Super Soco, mándame un mensaje)

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Posted : 10/10/2018 17:52
targaryen
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Vmoto said the range is possible to go 80km with 1 battery BUT it’s on ECO mode only. ( which is 23km/h in Netherlands).

 

whats your range with sport mode?

 

also if I’m correct, user “SuperHonda” is Spanish, you can message him for help, it’s a nice guy.

This post was modified 1 month  ago by targaryen
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Posted : 10/10/2018 22:29
melkorestebanje
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Español.Jejeje.yo también

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Posted : 11/10/2018 14:23
UTesla
(@utesla)
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Posted by: targaryen

Vmoto said the range is possible to go 80km with 1 battery BUT it’s on ECO mode only. ( which is 23km/h in Netherlands).

 

whats your range with sport mode?

 

also if I’m correct, user “SuperHonda” is Spanish, you can message him for help, it’s a nice guy.

My TS says 60 km in Sport mode, 60 - 65 km/h. Fist trip as new, I rode my bike for 30 km in Sport mode and I arrived home with 40% of battery.

 

But in daily use I ride 3 km to go to work and 3 km back to home, so the battery lasts 30 km in Sport mode, but I never get the battery less than 20%, and most of time it is parked at home or work with the alarm activated.

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Posted : 11/10/2018 17:54
UTesla
(@utesla)
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Posted by: melkorestebanje

Español.Jejeje.yo también

Bien, no soy el único.

En Uruguay no he visto ningún foro de las Super Soco.

In Uruguay I have not seen any Super Soco forum.

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Posted : 11/10/2018 17:58
Oscar
(@oscar)
Owner Admin

Please keep the forum in English! Thank you,

 

I usually ride my Super Soco to school and I ride on a normal day around 22km to 30km in sport mode delimited. Most of the time I come back at around 48 precent when I ride 22km.

So if you go look at it via the theory, you can ride 6km on 10%. on a normal day I should use 36% in theory. There are a few things that make this a difficult topic because the conditions change all the time and I ride the bike delimited. But how I ride I use 16% more than the limited version of the Super Soco.

 

Theory:

60/100=0,6km     1%=0,6km

10x0,6=6km          10%=6km

22/6=3.66           so 36% used

Super Soco TS1200R

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Posted : 11/10/2018 19:14
Edge1981
(@edge1981)
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I found this forum yesterday, just went over 6000km today. Today I delimited my TC and had a lot more fun coming to work. 

Greetz from Belgium.

Edge

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Posted : 01/11/2018 10:58
Oscar
(@oscar)
Owner Admin

@edge1981 Awesome to hear! Have fun with your TC!

Super Soco TS1200R

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Posted : 01/11/2018 18:02
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