Just to say I finally got the bike! It's a 1100km used, spoke wheels, picked up at a dealer and looking brand new. For 3400€ euro, a great price! Brand new retails here in Spain for about 4500€ minus 750€ govt rebate.
It does have the lighter orange battery cables and no switches next to the battery like other (older?) models. It also has the SIM card, the Android app works perfectly, with GPS location reporting, diagnostics, historical trip record and notifications if someone moves the bike when parked (!). So I'd say it's most definitely the newer model, or at least the newest you can get here in Spain.
Yesterday I got the speedometer to 100km/h on a flat motorway without any effort (I'm 1.80m, 91kg - 14.5 stone). The engine is amazing, even when uphill, and it has surpassed all my expectations. It's definitely the most perfect commuter bike ever made 😄 in my humble opinion that is.
@rodd nice work, you got a great deal. Do you know where the SIM card is located? I got my bike serviced yesterday and the servicing guys looked all over the bike, including under the left cover and could not locate the SIM anywhere...
@ewayfarer I have no idea. I didn't actually see the SIM, just reckoned it's there since the app works. My best guesses would be in the controller module, which sits in front of the bike's body, just above the air intake or within the speedometer itself. Both of those have access to the bike telemetry data, which is needed to feed the app.
@rodd where did you get the number from that you need to sync with the app or did you use the qr reader?
@ewayfarer the app has a qr reader when you start it the first time, and my qr and number readout is in the printed manual booklet.
@rodd hola, me podrías decir a qué tienda fuistes a comprar la TC max en Madrid gracias!
@clasick la moto es una km0 de XR Motos, que no distribuye Supersoco y la tenía de segunda mano. El concesionario donde el propietario original ha comprado la moto es Moto V4.
@rodd: That's exciting. Keep us tuned. Does it have straight or bent handlebars? I'm probably going to take the plunge with a 2020 version very soon.
Very useful info (mobile connectivity, hope of issue correction and 100km/h fun). Another difference seems to be the new handlebar shape (halfway back to the TC - slight angle and a coupe of cm higher) which is a relief as on a test ride I found the Max straight bar was too low for me.
Might be worth me splashing out on a new one, rather than a 2nd hand 2019 Max.... I would love to hear any more differences. Am hoping to decide soon. Anyone ridden both yet?
P.S. I really hope they have ironed out the many problems I had with my TC. I have had it a year and have spend more time off road than on it. Disappointing. I am on my 3rd plug as 2 previous ones melted on. Fat one now seems totally fine. Issue with kills switch currently and lockdown meant 4 months without a bike. Pants.
Onward - ever hopeful, excited and oddly still loving Supersoco!
@helsbels mine has the bent handlebars. I hadn't realized it there were different handlebars, you're right, just saw it in a review from 1+ years ago.
I can confirm they are very comfortable and allow me (1.80m), to ride straight up. I love how they are not too wide, it's great for squeezing through traffic and also feels very stable on the freeway, while letting me attack corners aggressively.
So far, from commuting everyday, it seems a very solid package! The bike is very responsive even at ~90km/h when I need to overtake in any of the peripheral highways around Madrid. It's soo light and agile like hell. And it handles uphill rides very nicely, which I think is also something this version has improved on.
Some quirks that bug me most:
- The charger is extremely slow, 5-8 hours to recharge, but a faster 10A charger is available it seems so maybe I'll get it later on. I had installed a 32A type 2 mennekes socket for the car that I'm also now using to charge the bike (with an adapter to a schuko plug). This may open up a few possibilities for a customized charger solution too.
- The keylock inside the battery compartment is in a very awkward place, if you insert the key from a large keychain it hinders the process of removing the battery, since you must turn and hold the key while pulling the battery out. I haven't needed to do this too many times yet, since I charge from the outside plug, but it still needs a better solution.
And I've had only 3 minor issues so far:
- the battery red light came on while riding in a tunnel and it cut the engine power off (not the bike's), but only for 2 seconds. Then it came back on. I was in mode 1 by mistake, which should limit the speed (actually the power) to around 50km/h - 60km/h but with the tunnel downward slope, it was accelerating way past 75km/h. So maybe it was some type of surge protection. Could not find anything in the manual about it.
- one time, the bike didn't accelerate at first when taking off from a red light uphill. I think maybe it was because I let it slide a little backwards while turning the gas up. After applying the brakes.
- the android app stopped reporting the battery charge, history and diagnostics after 1 day. But it still reports GPS location accurately and notifies me when the alarm goes off or there is some "vibration detected". I hope it's an app issue rather than a bike issue. I'll try to reinstall the app, delete all data, and pair it again with the bike to see if it fixes it.
That's it! I also installed a Givi 32L box (model B32 I think), very nice! I'm attaching a picture.
And So What We Know About # Super Soco Tc Max Electric Motorcycle 2020 Update
1.electricity switch under the saddle,
2. Controller under the battery
3. The controller has 6 outputs instead of 5
4. The controller is improved from 60A to 80A current
5. The motor and battery are the same, but tests show that the mileage is reduced to 66 km instead of 70 (at maximum speed)
6. The wire instead of 5 pins has 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8-utiLMPb4
@teasher and the handlebar shape, which apparently sits higher than the older models.
And the SIM card / GPS / app, but I'm not sure about that one.
Ok I got mine on 05 12 2020 so all the above is true but it also comes with a 10 Amp charger as standard I didn't realize this when I got it. When I went to Andy Sills Southsea to pick it up and he gave me this 10Amp charger I thought don't say any thing perhaps they are giving me there special one just put it in the Top box and ride once paid for of course. As it turns out SS have realized this is a selling point (yes it is) and it was the correct charger. 36 MPH in town in Mode 1, this apparently was not true on the pre 2020 version. when I do go to the 40 MPH places I do use 2 but this has taken me to fifty so be careful of those backward looking cameras. CBT riders running in on wet roads double you breaking distance these are shiny pads and need 250 miles to scrub. I've been excessively breaking with caution and I'm starting to get a better grip. I hold a full licence but I can tell all CBT holders this bike is 10 times easier to ride than Petrol so take your test it free's you up. It makes little difference to stay in mode 3 I have heard, it is rubbish at least with the 2020 version I have used it once mode 2 reaches 50. I watch my phone when charging its good as I don't want the 10 amp charger fan running all night when full. Guilty I try to change gear with my feet and break but worst is these non centering indicators: All versions. My 5 mile each way commute is now a 25 mile joy ride thank you SS.
