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sparky9
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So, I have a used super soco ts1200r, and the battery is 50% used up.  I am thinking of doing a DIY pack, any advice?  I have built battery packs before and know how to solder, so this isnt an issue.  I wonder if I use the BMS and plug hardware in the old battery if everything would be fine?  I plan on making a pack with more cells so that I have more AH, Im thinking somewhere in the 40-50 AH range, this way I will have way way more range per charge.  thanks to all that have any advice/warnings before I get started on this project!

Mike

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Super Honda
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So, I have a used super soco ts1200r, and the battery is 50% used up. 

Seriously! in other words, it only holds for half the range now?, how long distance have you been driving with it?

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sparky9
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so nobody has tried building a DIY battery for their super soco?  Thats surprising considering how expensive they are...

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supersocogt
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Hi. I am interested on making a better battery for my ts1200r as well. 

How much will you spend building it? 

How long did you use your battery before getting it to that 50%?

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sparky9
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I bought the TS used only a week ago.  If I do this and Im not sure I will as I have gotten no feedback here.  I read somewhere about how if you dont use the original BMS the bike wont register your SOC properly.  So, I guess I will take apart the original battery remove the BMS and charging socket, and build a battery using those bits.  I assume it will work...

Well, I have an awesome supplier of new and barely used cells in the states.  batteryhookup dot com.  Awesome awesome awesome awesome.  I have bought batteries from them in the recent past, so I am not worried about that part in the least.

Just hoping I could get some feedback on re-using the BMS and if it might give me headaches or if it should be good ... hoping to find somebody that has done this very thing themselves...

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Super Honda
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All third-party batteries have so seen so far has been connected in series with the original battery, no one seems to have succeeded in copying the BMS or the identification that the original battery provides.
Isn't it better to just open the original battery and change to new cells?
Then you build one more battery that can fit beside and parallel them, if you destroy the original's BMS then your smoked!

Parallel connected;

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Original inside with BMS;

original

How the parallel battery connects;

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sparky9
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hey super honda, thank you for the great information there!  I was hoping on something like this.  🙂  so I cant seem to find a definitive answer as to if the cells are Lifepo4 or simple Lithium ion?  I do like the idea of imply replacing the cells in the original enclosure then getting a new pack like what you linked to there.  Actually today and tomorrow Aliexpress has their singles day sale going on (Nov 11 every year) where you can buy a lot of stuff on super good sales.  Im sure you are already aware of this though eh?  🙂

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Super Honda
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It is ordinary 18650 lithium cells of good qality inside (LG/Samsung), no Lifepo4:s

One stock battery for TC/30AH reviewed on another forum has 153 LG cells(LGGBMH11865) inside.

Configuration 17s9p can be read on the BMS;

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Aliexpress has a lot of good battery sellers, and cheap! Has bought several batterys there - always secure that you get good quality cells from Japan instead och cheap chineese ones, use to be options in some better stores there.

My electrical Oset trial bike, conveted to Litium (48v 20Ah) and some examples of batterys with quality cells;

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