Wondering if anyone has the cable pinout diagram to program the Super Soco TC Max for stuff like regenerative braking. The only place ive found this is a youtuber selling it for about $80 aud which I don't really want to spend on a cable. He mentioned it was a modified usb to serial cable but I think he reverse engineered it from a aliexpress cable.
Buy the cheapest ust-ttl adapter and connect it as shown in the diagram attached. I shared also the programming software.
@tonyb Please, could you tell us, which one is the pin Nr. 1 in the diagram? IT os not clear which pin it is on the 6-pin connector. Thanks.
@tonyb Please, could you tell which one on the 6-pin connector is the pin number 1? It is not clear srom the diagram...
@tonyb Hi There! I bought a cable, connected as per your diagram hopefully 😐 , select the port I am connected to and just a clicking noise from the controller and a time out message in the program.
May it be I am still not connecting it properly?
Thanks!
Thank you very much for your help. Can you tell me wich type of the connector is on the motorcycle end? Is a connector used on atx psu's? And can you help me where the pin no 1 is and wich is the location? The part with the retainig clip or the other part? Can you draw to the picture diagram the retaining clip?
Thank you very much.
Please, could anybody, who made the cable, let us know how to connect the cables to the 6-pin connector? From the picture/diagram we do not know, which one is pin 1. Attached is the 6-pin port, but the pin 1 in this does not automatically means, that it is the same as in the diagram for communication cable... Thats why it would be nice to make it clear.
@ryko this is the correct pinout, look at the image
Red: +5v
Black: GND
Yellow: TXD
Blue: RXD
If the controller does not connect, switch between yellow and blue cable, i am not sure about the right way of these two cables, but be sure you connect red and black correctly. Switching between rxd and txd will not harm anything, only the controller will not connect with the pc, until you will match correctly these two wires.
For me, until i matched the wires i tried every possibility of combinations, after all that was the lucky combination.
But in my case, i can't activate the regenerative braking when i press the brakes, seems my 2023 tc max does not have the brakes 12v signal connected to controller, or is other problem, i will investigate when i will have time to do this. For me, i activated the auto start of regen, and that is on when i release the throttle. Is working now like a regular motorcycle with engine braking. I setted like on the Tim's titimus blog, on 28 Amps, but the regen braking is too weak. I will put more amps, because my 2023 tcmax battery suports more than 10A of charging, i tryed 15A with battery out, and worked, but the bms sutted down the charging when i tried more amps. But with the battery in the motorcycle and acc on and in ready mode i reached 17A without any problem, was the max output of the universal charger i tried with. Maybe the battery suports more amps when the acc is on. I ordered a 25A charger and is on the way. I will post the news when i will try how many amps the battery suports, with the new charger.
One thing i observed, in one cold morning when the battery stayed over night at about 3-5⁰ C, i tried to charge the battery with the universal charger, but the bms immediately sutted down the charging. I connected after that the original charger, and the charging started with low load, and after a while switched at full load. So the battery accepts other chargers, but have to be in the correct temperature range, i don't know wich that is for this type of the battery.
If other users will have something to add or have other informations, please share with us. Let's make the TC Max community better and helpful.
The USB to serial adapter that I used has option for 3.3 or 5V for VCC. I used 3.3V and was able to connect using the pinout in an earlier post by @TonyB (thanks Tony). After programming the EBS Charging Voltage and Current, I took a test ride and didn't notice any regen. After having a closer look, I discovered that I hadn't enabled EBS, DOH! Enabled EBS and quick test ride confirmed charging on the dash display. When I get a chance I'll try in a hillier terrain.
Re EBS auto-mode, did you change the auto-mode speed from 400rpm? This setting is probably targeted at hub motors which rev much lower.
I'll leave auto-mode disabled for the moment and try it after I've tested the brake activated regen more thoroughly.
@alinarghira Thanks for your post, was extremely helpful! I have the 2023 model as well and I've got the same issue with no regen while braking so I'll try the auto regan next, did you do any testing with the auto-mode rpm setting? Mine is defaulted at 400 as Johnny mentioned.
Also did you make any progress with the new charger? It'd be good to know whether we can safely increase the rev-charging current above 28amps, I suspect the tutorials online are more relevant to previous year models.
@alinarghira Ok I enabled the auto regen earlier today and that seems to be working as it should with the charge symbol lighting up soon after I stop accelerating. I havent taken it for my usual commute yet so not sure how much this will impact my range. I left it on the default rpm setting which I noticed is actually 180 (not 400). I suppose if I raise this value the regen will just kick more immediately after releasing the throttle.
The Vmoto VS1 model has a fox vector 3.0 controller.Maybe someone knows: it is possible this controller be programmed with the LBMC GUI V.4.0.0 software?I tried as shown in the topic Super Soco TC Max but I didn't succeed.
