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A couple of video clips I posted on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/fcfanboy/status/1203437784150745088

https://twitter.com/fcfanboy/status/1203837725071286274

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I don't get your point but it is a good place to put one observation. My TCmax rides pretty silent. But I used for a few days demo one (nice move of my dealer - they left me demo when my TCmax was taken for obligatory 1000 km service) and demo one was much more loud. It sounded like a noisy interrupter or sparkling motor brushes. Pretty annoying. However I think it was a bit more dynamic.

 

But I like silent electric sound when I ride. 🙂

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Hi,

As you say it was only an observation but as far as I am concerned the only time an electric motorcycle is silent, as in no audible noise whatsoever, is when it is completely stationary.

Ignoring tyre, brake and final drive noises e-m/cs can be whisper quiet, quieter than the ambient surroundings whilst travelling at very low speeds. Whack the throttle wide open and the motor whine is quite intoxicating 😍 

So, yes, electric motorcycles are not noisy (unless you've heard an Energica Eva EsseEsse 9 on full tilt, https://twitter.com/aminorjourney/status/1185565784606556162?s=20) but neither are they completely devoid of character.

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Keep in mind that location of engine is also important. In TCmax you hear drive belt. In TC/TS - there is none as their engine was mounted in the wheel hub (if I am right with terms in English). So for them there is no noise made by belt. Pretty important difference if we talk about details and sources of sound in electric motorcycles.

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Whilst I have enjoyed debating this topic you are correct in that most of the Super Soco range use hub motors which are inherently quieter than the motor and drive train fitted to the TC Max.

Please note that I did post this in the TC Max sub-forum so it goes without saying that I was referring to the TC Max and not it's lower powered siblings.

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I find that mine is inconsistent with the sound it makes, sometimes it feels like the drive belt is binding on something.

This can also be felt in vibrations through the pegs. Other times it can run really smooth this inconsistent noise and vibration does concern me

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Hmmm... Weird noises, yes, but I've not had any vibration. Maybe get the motor, belt and belt tension checked out.

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@larchyboy Did you found a fix for the noises problem? I just bought a new TC max, and I'm having noise and vibrations just like you described coming from the motor. 

 
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@agus-kwar no I didn’t. The bike went in for service and they said it seemed fine, but for me, it came back the same, making a noise that I’m sure their demo didn’t make when I rode it.

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@watsonsdad check belt tension, betwin 77 and 94 mhz, with the app carbon drive

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@FCFanBoy Mine sounds the same as yours in those vids.

BTW, where did you buy yours? I'm in Southampton and I had to come over your way to Dorchester Collection. None of the dealers near me had a TCMax, and were vague and "I'll get back to you".

Ben at D.C. was really helpful - pointed me at https://twitter.com/evopinion review of Evo3, and let me test ride the same scooter, to find out what 3KW felt like, as the nearest comparison to a TCMax that I could actually take on the road. He had 2 TCMaxes in the showroom but couldn't register them until they were sold because of the gov grant thing. I bought one of them 🙂

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Hi mrj,

Welcome to the TC Max club 🤪 

Sorry, not sure how I missed this as I'm subscribed to this thread. 

I bought mine from https://urbanebikes.com/ @ Rye Harbour as it was the closest dealer with a demonstrator. I've had very good service from them from the outset.

I've heard good things about D.C. and I'm glad that they have sorted you out 👍 

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I think it was UrbanEbikes who brought one to Fully Charged Live in 2019. That's where I first saw one, sat on it, and thought "that'll do". Heck of a slog to go over there though! But that was going to be my last resort after DC.

IIRC VMoto didn't have a stand. The show was meant to display every EV on sale in the UK.

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Both UrbanEbikes & English Electric Motor Company had a TC Max on their stands @ FCLIVE '19. I only went with U.E. because they were closer. The other alternatives were Green Mopeds & Avon Motorcycles but they weren't offering free delivery.

 

Slightly off-topic but have you got your Fully Charged Live 2020 tickets yet?
We're doing the whole 3 days this year 😎 

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Haven't got tickets yet. Depends on my two EVcar mates who I got a lift with last year. Could ride up on my petrol bike, but that would be just wrong! We should coordinate on this forum to try to meet up as many of us as possible.

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Good idea on the meet up @ FCL. I took my diesel Laguna Coupe in 2018 & 19 😉 

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@mrj I bought mine from English Electric Motor Co in Diss, Norfolk

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